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 "Prophet" Brian Carn shares the words of a psychic almost word for word; claims they are from the LORD |
Dave Dorsey |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbSfqv1ahTM
Brothers, it's one thing for us to poke fun and laugh at videos like this, but I urge you to move beyond that and see the eternal significance of what is going on in the church today. This is NOTHING for the men and women of God to be laughing at.
The title says it all. This man holds "revivals" and lays hands on people in the name of Jesus, and Christians who love the Lord flock to them because they don't know any better. He has been in meetings with people who are deeply respected in our charismatic and Pentecostal circles.
I don't know that we have any business praying against particular men and women, unless God leads, but we MUST come against the spirit of darkness which is, through these men and women, deceiving even God's elect. We must dedicate ourselves to the teaching of the Word, rightly divided. I am beside myself at the apostasy in the church, and I am beside myself at the great number, ESPECIALLY IN OUR CHARISMATIC CIRCLES, that lap up this damnable heresy, thinking it is the milk of the Word. Please pray about these things as the Spirit leads you. And do me a favor and don't use this thread for any jokes or humor. This topic should not be treated with levity. |
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diakoneo |
Wow! Surely this video would bring an end to the "Profit's" career!
But...not! |
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3/12/16 9:09 pm
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bonnie knox |
Dave, I remember someone posting on Acts the "prophecies" of Brian Carn a year ago. I remember being skeptical because I thought the "prophecies" were either ambiguous or just things that would likely happen anyway (like a hurricane in Boca Raton which interestingly enough did not happen even though, statistically speaking, Boca Raton is overdue for one).
I found enough information about him then to satisfy myself that he had character issues, though I couldn't confirm the stuff first hand. I did post last September that he had missed it on the hurricane season.
I am glad when someone who is a fraud is exposed. |
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3/12/16 10:32 pm
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Oh, I'm now remembering (though vaguely) more of the discussion we had at the time. I think someone had posted about how he missed it on how many children a woman had. I think someone else was trying to explain how that he still could have been right if he was just referring to children young enough not to care for themselves.
Too bad that thread fell off the bottom of the page. |
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3/12/16 10:42 pm
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Wow.
Which came first, Carne's sermon, or the psychic's show? The poster says the psychic gave her predictions in February 2014. I don't remember any pork diseases last year, but I didn't closely follow the news. Were there any major outbreaks? It seems like I might have read about something in the UK. But Francis of Rome got sick.
I've seen clips of Carnes calling out people's bank account numbers.
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Neither Profit Carnes or the psychic will be ministering at Pikeville. Not as long as the ole timer is alive.
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3/12/16 11:10 pm
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bonnie knox |
| Quote: | | Which came first, Carne's sermon, or the psychic's show? |
Dave said not to make jokes. 
The psychic did her thing in Feb. 2014 and Carn did his thing on Dec. 31 2014. |
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3/12/16 11:17 pm
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| Quote: | | He has been in meetings with people who are deeply respected in our charismatic and Pentecostal circles. |
Dave, this is the part that concerns me. This is where mature leadership is needed. The leaders of the churches need to know the character of the people they bring in. There is a temptation to bring in someone sensational who will draw crowds and bring in money. ~shaking my head~
I don't see leaders with enough gumption to call out the fraudulent among us. |
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3/12/16 11:29 pm
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Quiet Wyatt |
| Pitiful. I suppose he figured it was pretty much the same thing as getting sermon notes off the internet and saying, "The Lord gave me this message." |
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3/13/16 1:51 am
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diakoneo |
Isn't what he is doing blasphemy?
He is ascribing to God what is coming from a demon!
Why would Christians (charismatic or other) allow this kind of garbage in their assemblies? Why do we choose crowds over truth? Sensationalism over substance? |
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3/13/16 6:27 am
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Dave Dorsey |
| Link wrote: | | Which came first, Carne's sermon, or the psychic's show? The poster says the psychic gave her predictions in February 2014. |
I had the same question. I looked up the original psychic video and she says in the video that she is speaking in Feb of 2014. YouTube records it as being posted in March of 2014 so that was sufficient evidence to me that she was first. |
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3/13/16 7:04 am
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Dave Dorsey |
| bonnie knox wrote: | | Dave, this is the part that concerns me. |
I agree 100%. I am not saying that those who have ministered with him are false teachers as well, but in the very best of circumstances they are unaware they are breaking the bread of God's word with a charlatan. Forget the discernment among God's people, where is the discernment among God's ministers??? |
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3/13/16 7:06 am
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Dave Dorsey |
| diakoneo wrote: | | Why would Christians (charismatic or other) allow this kind of garbage in their assemblies? Why do we choose crowds over truth? Sensationalism over substance? |
We are afraid to call things out because we don't want to "touch the Lord's anointed."
But Jesus wrote to the church at Thyatira and said, I love your works, your love, and your faith, but I've got this against you: you tolerate that woman Jezebel in your midst. Charismatics love to talk about the "spirit of Jezebel" as if it is some kind of spirit of rebellion, generally one that affects women, but it is nothing of the sort so far as I can see. Jezebel is representative of false doctrine. Of sin that is wrapped up and justified by a contortion of the word of God. In Hebrew her name means pure, chaste. She is a woman that has the appearance of good but works great wickedness.
Jesus said she calls herself a prophetess and seduces My servants and teaches them that it's right. And He told the church at Thyatira, you have tolerated her in your midst. You have let her do what she is doing without trouble.
I don't know if they were afraid of wrongly speaking against God's anointed, as so many charismatics are, but it's time for discerning charamatic ministers to begin calling it like it is in our pulpits. We have tolerated Jezebel in our midst for way too long. |
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3/13/16 7:15 am
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| Dave Dorsey wrote: | | Link wrote: | | Which came first, Carne's sermon, or the psychic's show? The poster says the psychic gave her predictions in February 2014. |
I had the same question. I looked up the original psychic video and she says in the video that she is speaking in Feb of 2014. YouTube records it as being posted in March of 2014 so that was sufficient evidence to me that she was first. |
Did you find the actual original video of the psychic? The poster who posted the comparison said it was from February. I wanted to fact check.
If all of it was limited to 2015, a lot of those things did not appear to come to pass. One thing that concerned me when I saw this first was the part predicting that Kayne West would lose his mind and get a divorce. I know Nebucadnezzar's losing his mind was prophesied beforehand, but it was prophesied to him, not to a crowd of people far away. And what would it be like to have divorce prophesied over your marriage, and publically to some crowd somewhere else when you aren't even there?
Has Carn responded to the video? I've seen Vlogs from him on Youtube, but I think these are reposts by other users.
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Dave Dorsey |
| Yes I did. I am skedaddling out the door to church but I will post it this afternoon. I appreciate your desire for verification that she was first. |
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3/13/16 7:48 am
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He's got a summary of these predictions on his web site.
http://briancarn.com/prophecy/
I'm kind of surprised he'd put them up.
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3/13/16 8:01 am
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Quiet Wyatt |
| diakoneo wrote: | Isn't what he is doing blasphemy?
He is ascribing to God what is coming from a demon!
Why would Christians (charismatic or other) allow this kind of garbage in their assemblies? Why do we choose crowds over truth? Sensationalism over substance? |
Many years ago, I spent a couple of years as part of a charismatic church that strongly emphasized 'the prophetic'. We would often have 'words of knowledge' in our services. One time I even heard a 'prophetic' minister say while ministering, "When I see psychics who are so accurate, it only challenges me to do even better!"
What I'm saying, without in any way excusing a lack of discernment, is that folks who are into this typically so desperately want to believe God is speaking to them through a prophet, and are so sure that the restoration of the ministries of apostles and prophets is what is needed most desperately today that they (tragically) will trust virtually anybody who claims to have a personal word from God for them. I remember even hearing a church group I was out eating Chinese food with once *seriously* discussing whether or not fortune cookies might be a word from God for us.
It really is sad how some folks will eat this kind of stuff up like candy. I thank God for showing me how absurd it all was. I am not a cessationist, of course, but from what see in Scripture, believers are to be led first and foremost by the indwelling Spirit of God guiding them into all truth, and are nowhere instructed in Scripture to go and seek out a prophetic word for themselves. All we need for guidance and instruction is contained in the inspired infallible word of God and in the Holy Spirit who breathed out the word and Who lives in us! |
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3/13/16 9:34 am
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Dave Dorsey |
Here is the psychic's original video. Note the YouTube publication date of March 29, 2014. She also says the February date in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1EkFyLP4ek
The page Link shared from Carn's website identifies his service as being Jan 1, 2015.
I am surprised, but not surprised, that those prophecies are on his website with attempts to demonstrate they are accurate. The hearts of men will wax colder and colder. |
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3/13/16 11:03 am
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Dave Dorsey |
| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | I thank God for showing me how absurd it all was. |
I so appreciate the heart of this statement. It is easy for us to look down on believers who are chasing after this nonsense, but the only thing separating us from them is a moment of revelation from the Word of God. Did we pursue knowledge of God's word to build that discernment within us? Did we draw nearer to Him so we could hear from Him? Maybe we did, but where did we get the desire to do that?
What I am trying to say is that God has set us free from this, and I believe God can set others free. I know some will never listen and will always be tossed about by every wind of doctrine, but I believe that many who are currently deceived can be set free. I have such a heart to pray for the people who are being deceived by these kinds of things, and such a burning desire to devote myself to preaching the Word and calling these things out. God's people are being destroyed because of a lack of knowledge.
Will anyone here commit to praying about this with me?
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3/13/16 12:24 pm
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| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | I remember even hearing a church group I was out eating Chinese food with once *seriously* discussing whether or not fortune cookies might be a word from God for us! |
Has the ole timer not been cryin in the wilderness for over ten years on Actscelerate, warnin of such ignorance an foolishness amongst charismatics an Pentecostals? |
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